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Conflict re: James Cuddy Smith b 1760 NC- father to Jonathan Smith? Does not seem so

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Posted by smithsworldwide in Smith DNA Group Discussion GRP-I-M253-5 on May 4, 2024 Views:(319) Replies (0)
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Got in a new member recently that has James Cuddy Smith b 1760 NC m Martha Parham as the ancestor. Location was, around 1840 at his time of death, Montgomery Co NC. Haplogroup for that member is R-M269 and matches are to Group GRP-R-M259-191. There is no indication that Jonathan Smith, who was also in Montgomery Co NC, is the son of James C Smith, and just as important is that the two members who did YDNA have a differen haplogroup I-M53. Although Jonathan lives in an early census near Green Smith, who is from James Cuddy, there is no indication that Jonathan is a son of James, but what is needed for a dispute is a source that shows otherwise. Thanks to descendant of James Cuddy who researches him and recommended a lookout.

In looking at Jonathan Smith again, there are no names of children named James, but there is a Reuben. Could this son be named after the Reuben who was early on in Montgomery Co NC and if you are a descendant of same, come join the project.
Some YDNA possibilities for other children from Jonathan. (in blue).
Jonathan Smith ^[1] b. 1801 Montgomery County, North Carolina, USA d. 1873 Montgomery County, North Carolina, USA

Rebecca Morris b. 1801 Montgomery County, North Carolina, USA d. 1875 Montgomery County, North Carolina, USA

2 William David Smith ^[1.1] b. 1842 North Carolina, USA d. 1920 Uwharee,Montgomery County, North Carolina, USA

Catherine Hunsucker b. 14 Mar 1842 North Carolina, USA d. 27 Apr 1888 North Carolina, USA

3 Odus Dockery Smith ^[1.1.1] b. 1881 Montgomery County, North Carolina, USA d. 1961 Montgomery County, North Carolina, USA

Emma Elizabeth Smith b. c 1889
3 Thomas M Smith ^[1.1.2] b. c 1867 North Carolina, USA

+ Iva Strother
3 Elmina Smith ^[1.1.3] b. c 1869
3 Schuyler Lorance Smith ^[1.1.4] b. Jan 1873 North Carolina, USA

Bannie A Bruton b. 1875 d. 1931

4 Carmie Lineberry Smith ^[1.1.4.1] b. Feb 1897 North Carolina, USA [ =>]
3 William T Smith ^[1.1.5] b. c 1873
3 Oscar Hayes Smith ^[1.1.6] b. 18 May 1876 North Carolina, USA d. 18 Jun 1959 York County, South Carolina, USA

Annie Florence Thompson b. 1880 d. 1945

4 Burley Vanderbilt Smith ^[1.1.6.1] b. 7 May 1902 Troy,NC,USA d. 17 May 1980 Boone,NC,USA [ =>]
3 John C Smith ^[1.1.7] b. c 1879

Minnie Dennis

4 Alvin Smith ^[1.1.7.1]
4 Edith Smith ^[1.1.7.2]
4 Mabel Smith ^[1.1.7.3]
2 Calvin Smith ^[1.2] b. 27 Jul 1830 North Carolina, USA d. 7 Oct 1918 North Carolina, USA

Mary Eliza

3 Mahala Smith ^[1.2.1]
3 Martha J Smith ^[1.2.2]
3 Mary E Smith ^[1.2.3]
3 Sarah R Smith ^[1.2.4]
3 Andrew P Smith ^[1.2.5]
2 Nancy Smith ^[1.3] b. c 1843

+ Lancelot Robinson
2 Reuben Smith ^[1.4] b. c 1835 North Carolina, USA

Julia Wade

3 Isaac S Smith ^[1.4.1] b. c 1860 North Carolina, USA

Eliza Robinson

4 William Columbus Smith ^[1.4.1.1] b. 7 Oct 1883 North Carolina, USA d. 6 Sep 1958 Liberty Hill, Montgomery County, North Carolina, USA
3 Louisa Smith ^[1.4.2] b. c 1861 North Carolina, USA

+ George W Morris
Would particularly like, on YDNA, to compare male chidlren of Calvin Smith or Reuben OR if you have done an autosomal test for this line, come join the project.

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