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Smith DNA Matched Group GRP-I-M253-17- Benjamin Smith b 1799 NC and William McVey Smith b 1880 KY m Amelia Gambrel. for the Smith Official DNA Project (All) at FamilyTreeDNA
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Benjamin Smith b 1799 NC and William McVey Smith b 1880 KY m Amelia Gambrel.

Adopted-FOCHT Smith match -likely John Smith b 1801 Clay KY m T Sanders--- Benjamin Smith b 1779 NC m Celia Hall (2 Jesse 3 John)--- Benjamin Smith b 1780 d 1859--- Benjamin Smith b 1780 NC m Celia Hall--- Benjamin Smith b 1780 NC m Celia Hall (2 Jesse 3 Alexander)--- Benjamin Smith b 1780 NC m Celia Hall 2. Sylvania Smith 3 William Garrett--- Benjamin Smith b c 1800 NC m Celia Hall 2 Alexander 3 Marshall--- Benjamin Smith b c 1800 NC m Celia Hall 2 Alexander 3 Marshall (same mem as B690***)--- Benjamin Smith m Celia Hall (2 Jesse 3 Joseph)--- Edward Clarence Greenhill b 1849 AL--- Henry Clay Smith b VA m Malissa Davis 2 James 3 Daniel--- John Smith b 1801 Clay Co KY m Telitha Sanders--- John Smith b 1801 Clay Co KY m Telitha Sanders 2 George 3 Francis--- John Smith b 1801 Clay Co KY m Telitha Sanders 2 William 3 William--- John Smith b VA d 1787 NC m Elizabeth Hawkins 2 Joseph 3 William--- John Smith b VA d 1787 NC m Elizabeth Hawkins 2 Joseph 3 William--- John W Smith b c 1811 GA/SC m Frances W Ashmore--- Randolph Spicer Smith b 1750 VA m Elizabeth 2 Randolph Spicer 3 Randolph Getty--- Rhesa Smith b 1821 MS m Naoma Lawrence--- Thomas Smith b 1674 England m Martha Thomas 2. Thomas Smith 3 Thomas Smith 4 Robert Smith--- Thomas Smith I b 1674 England m Martha Thomas 2. Thomas Smith II 3 John 4 Jabel Smith 5. Theophilus--- Thomas Smith I b 1674 England m Martha Thomas 2. Thomas Smith II 3 John 4 Jabel Smith 5. Theophilus .--- Thomas Smith I b 1674 England m Martha Thomas 2. Thomas Smith II 3 Thomas 4 Jabel--- Thomas Smith I b 1674 England m Martha Thomas 2. Thomas Smith II 3, John 4. John Smith--- Thomas Smith I b 1674 England m Martha Thomas 2. Thomas Smith II 3, John 4. John Smith 5 Samuel--- Thomas Smith I b 1674 England m Martha Thomas 2. Thomas Smith II 3, John 4. John Smith 5 Samuel--- Thomas Smith I b 1674 England m Martha Thomas 2. Thomas Smith II 3, John 4. John Smith 5 Samuel--- Thomas Smith I b 1674 England m Martha Thomas 2. Thomas Smith II 3, John 4. John Smith 5 Samuel--- Thomas Smith I b 1674 England m Martha Thomas 2. Thomas Smith II 3, John 4. John Smith 5 Samuel--- Thomas Smith I b 1674 England m Martha Thomas 2. Thomas Smith II 3, John 4. John Smith 5 Samuel--- Thomas Smith I b 1674 England m Martha Thomas 2. Thomas Smith II 3, John 4. John Smith 5 Samuel--- Thomas Smith I b 1674 England m Martha Thomas 2. Thomas Smith II 3. John 4. Jabel 5 Theophilus--- Thomas Smith I b 1674 England m Martha Thomas 2. Thomas Smith II 3. John 4.Jabel--- Unknown--- Unknown Smith--- William McVey Smith b c 1880 KY m Amelia Gambrel--- William Pruitt 1714 m Mary Martin---

Statistics: Total Members: 37 Total YDNA: 22 Total mtDNA: 0 Total autosomal: 16 Total tree only: 2 Total Big-Y: 5
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The following group is created based on YDNA matches. Sometimes trees are incorrect, and sometimes the results of DNA show that believing a particular tree is yours leads to a different direction than you originally thought. If you see an error in any tree, you are encouraged to send in corrections, sources, etc or post about it on the forum. These lines represent people's research. What the Smith DNA Project attempts to do in those cases is, with sources or reasoning, get the people together in a given group to discuss and then come to a consensus about the data for updating or correcting. We do not remove information without the people who have the trees, if possible,  being aware through a process so they can confirm or not, or describe the issue if there is a conflict that cannot be easily resolved. We also cannot know, nor have unlimited time to look for, places on the internet that have additional information. We rely on people whose trees these are, as project members, and members of this Smith DNA grouping, or interested passersby providing information that will set a new light on members data. If you know of other DNA matches that are not in the Smith DNA Project at FamilyTreeDNA, please invite them to join the project so that we may compare here  Also, There is a Submit Photo/Document/Source link on every ancestor page, as well as a Suggest changes and Contact link. Incidentally, make sure you post your tree on FTDNA for the benefit of others who want to compare and know what line it may be.  If you believe you would fit into this group, please 1. join the Smith DNA Project at FamilyTreeDNA (Official-All), 2. Send in your direct line that includes the earliest Smith/Schmidt for whom you have a source 3.  Register on the smithsworldwide.org big tree site    Don't see yourself or see something that needs updating or fixin'? Let us know!
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Matched Group/Subgroup Early Ancestor Tree/Ped/m/Y/X/FF(Aut) Kit# / Type Test SNP Gedmatch Migration Path
GRP-I-M253-17 Adopted-FOCHT Smith match -likely John Smith b 1801 Clay KY m T Sanders                       Kit # 8658****/ YDNA  I-253 KY>MO>OK>NM
GRP-I-M253-17 Benjamin Smith b 1779 NC m Celia Hall (2 Jesse 3 John) Kit # 8069****/ YDNA  BigY I-FTB57476 NC>KY>KY>KY
GRP-I-M253-17 Benjamin Smith b 1780 d 1859                       Kit # b230****/ FF/AUT 
GRP-I-M253-17 Benjamin Smith b 1780 NC m Celia Hall Kit # 8320****/ YDNA  I-M253 NC>KY (Clay)
GRP-I-M253-17 Benjamin Smith b 1780 NC m Celia Hall (2 Jesse 3 Alexander) Kit # 2283****/ YDNA  I-M253 NC>KY>KY>KY
GRP-I-M253-17 Benjamin Smith b 1780 NC m Celia Hall 2. Sylvania Smith 3 William Garrett / nEiZcd032022071240Tree Only
GRP-I-M253-17 Benjamin Smith b c 1800 NC m Celia Hall 2 Alexander 3 Marshall Kit # B690****/ FF/AUT 
GRP-I-M253-17 Benjamin Smith b c 1800 NC m Celia Hall 2 Alexander 3 Marshall (same mem as B690***) Kit # 9444****/ YDNA  I-Y6634
GRP-I-M253-17 Benjamin Smith m Celia Hall (2 Jesse 3 Joseph) Kit # 6497****/ FF/AUT  NC>KY>IN
GRP-I-M253-17 Edward Clarence Greenhill b 1849 AL Kit # 1502****/ YDNA  I-M253 AL
GRP-I-M253-17 Henry Clay Smith b VA m Malissa Davis 2 James 3 Daniel Kit # 9309****/ YDNA  FF/AUT  I-L1237 VA>GA
GRP-I-M253-17 John Smith b 1801 Clay Co KY m Telitha Sanders Kit # 3300****/ FF/AUT  KY>MO>MO
GRP-I-M253-17 John Smith b 1801 Clay Co KY m Telitha Sanders 2 George 3 Francis Kit # 3300****/ YDNA  I-M253 KY>MO>MO>MO
GRP-I-M253-17 John Smith b 1801 Clay Co KY m Telitha Sanders 2 William 3 William Kit # 5821****/ FF/AUT  KY (Clay) > IN (Hendricks)>MO (Phelps)
GRP-I-M253-17 John Smith b VA d 1787 NC m Elizabeth Hawkins 2 Joseph 3 William Kit # 6441****/ YDNA  I-M253 VA>NC
GRP-I-M253-17 John Smith b VA d 1787 NC m Elizabeth Hawkins 2 Joseph 3 William Kit # B186****/ FF/AUT  VA>NC
GRP-I-M253-17 John W Smith b c 1811 GA/SC m Frances W Ashmore Kit # 4801****/ YDNA  FF/AUT  I-M253 GA>AR
GRP-I-M253-17 Randolph Spicer Smith b 1750 VA m Elizabeth 2 Randolph Spicer 3 Randolph Getty Kit # B798****/ YDNA  BigY FF/AUT  I-FTB57476 GedMatch:XZ3392210 VA/KY/MO/AR
GRP-I-M253-17 Rhesa Smith b 1821 MS m Naoma Lawrence Kit # 9139****/ YDNA  I-Y6634 MS>LA>AR
GRP-I-M253-17 Thomas Smith b 1674 England m Martha Thomas 2. Thomas Smith 3 Thomas Smith 4 Robert Smith Kit # 9915****/ YDNA  I-M253 Eng>VA>SC>KY (Clay/Knox)
GRP-I-M253-17 Thomas Smith I b 1674 England m Martha Thomas 2. Thomas Smith II 3 John 4 Jabel Smith 5. Theophilus Kit # B162****/ YDNA  I-M253 GedMatch:a742454 KY (Clay) >KY>KY
GRP-I-M253-17 Thomas Smith I b 1674 England m Martha Thomas 2. Thomas Smith II 3 John 4 Jabel Smith 5. Theophilus . Kit # B921****/ FF/AUT  GedMatch:KG7542315 ENG> KY (Clay)
GRP-I-M253-17 Thomas Smith I b 1674 England m Martha Thomas 2. Thomas Smith II 3 Thomas 4 Jabel Kit # 1305****/ FF/AUT  ENG>KY(Clay)>IN
GRP-I-M253-17 Thomas Smith I b 1674 England m Martha Thomas 2. Thomas Smith II 3, John 4. John Smith Kit # 5636****/ YDNA  BigY I-FTB57476
GRP-I-M253-17 Thomas Smith I b 1674 England m Martha Thomas 2. Thomas Smith II 3, John 4. John Smith 5 Samuel Kit # b205****/ FF/AUT  NC>KY>KY
GRP-I-M253-17 Thomas Smith I b 1674 England m Martha Thomas 2. Thomas Smith II 3, John 4. John Smith 5 Samuel                       Kit # 5636****/ FF/AUT 
GRP-I-M253-17 Thomas Smith I b 1674 England m Martha Thomas 2. Thomas Smith II 3, John 4. John Smith 5 Samuel Kit # B471****/ FF/AUT 
GRP-I-M253-17 Thomas Smith I b 1674 England m Martha Thomas 2. Thomas Smith II 3, John 4. John Smith 5 Samuel / zMIQh420125957Tree Only NC>Clay KY
GRP-I-M253-17 Thomas Smith I b 1674 England m Martha Thomas 2. Thomas Smith II 3, John 4. John Smith 5 Samuel Kit # 9393****/ YDNA  BigY I-FTB57476
GRP-I-M253-17 Thomas Smith I b 1674 England m Martha Thomas 2. Thomas Smith II 3, John 4. John Smith 5 Samuel Kit # 9541****/ FF/AUT  NC >KY(Clay)
GRP-I-M253-17 Thomas Smith I b 1674 England m Martha Thomas 2. Thomas Smith II 3, John 4. John Smith 5 Samuel Kit # B215****/ YDNA 
GRP-I-M253-17 Thomas Smith I b 1674 England m Martha Thomas 2. Thomas Smith II 3. John 4. Jabel 5 Theophilus Kit # 1858****/ YDNA  I-M253 KY (Clay) >KY>KY
GRP-I-M253-17 Thomas Smith I b 1674 England m Martha Thomas 2. Thomas Smith II 3. John 4.Jabel Kit # B830****/ FF/AUT  GedMatch:A174411 England>Virginia>Kentucky
GRP-I-M253-17 Unknown                       Kit # 9637****/ YDNA  BigY I-FTB57476
GRP-I-M253-17 Unknown Smith                       Kit # 9402****/ YDNA  I-M253
GRP-I-M253-17 William McVey Smith b c 1880 KY m Amelia Gambrel Kit # 2050****/ YDNA  I-M253 KY>KY
GRP-I-M253-17 William Pruitt 1714 m Mary Martin Kit # 2359****/ YDNA  I-M253 VA>NC>TN>AL>TX
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 Note on John Smith m Telitha Sanders - KY>IN>MO
from member with this branch
Hopefully, we will see if Jabel Smith is of the same family as my Smith.  I gave other researchers something to argue about and inspire men to test their Y-DNA.  I am not at all sure John Smith, possible father of John / Jonathan Smith had a father named Thomas.  I would expect to see more men named Thomas in my family if that were true.  I picked up some of my Smith research from older researchers, Tommy and Rose Smith, now deceased.  They claimed a Richard Smith was involved, but I no longer think that is true.  There would be more Richards in my Smith family.  I expect ancestors farther back named John, William, or James.
 
I found no marriage for John Smith and Telitha Sanders in Clay, KY.  There is a garbled marriage in Adair Co., KY.  It looks like John Sanders moved to Adair County from Clay, KY,and John Smith likely followed.  John Smith and Telitha definitely lived somewhere in Indiana in 1838, when my 2nd great-grandfather, William Smith,  was born there.  They may not have lived there long?  I have never found proof it was Hendricks County.  All of the John Smiths there do not seem to be my relatives.  It is hard researching John Smith.  I have family information back to John /  Jonathan Smith and photos.  I inherited many of my Smith grandparent's photos and papers, and I have researched for years.  I have found nothing that indicates John Smith was ever a Jonathan, but other researchers sometimes use that so I put the name on my tree so I can more easily recognize him.  John was in Phelps County Missouri later, and he died there.. His son, William Smith was a Confederate soldier, and went to Lamar Coury, Texas after the Civil War.  See documents on my tree.  His son, William Aladdin "Billy" Smith, lived in both Missouri and Lamar, Texas, but returned to Missouri.  My grandfather lived in Lamar Co., Texas as a boy, but returned to Missouri where he was born.  My grandfather, James William Smith, and my mother, M. Belle Smith Pigg were born in Missouri, and they both lived in southeast Kansas when they died.. I have researched all the descendants of John / Jonathan Smith that I could find, and I put them on my tree with documentation. I have had correspondence with Smith descendants over the years, but the men did not have the surname Smith.  William Franklin "Frank" Smith, formerly of Miami, Oklahoma, son of John Smith a great uncle for my mother had male sons.  I met his children when I was young, I remember mom's uncle Thel, Othello Smith, and some of his children who were double relatives to mom.  Both men mentioned had sons, but I do not know where they are now. Most of the Smith I have corresponded with are / were women..  There were at least two different Smith families in Lamar, Texas, but my Smith relatives there may have had sons?  I put a notice on John / Jonathan Smith's page in my Ancestry Tree for men named Smith to get a Y-DNA test at Family Tree DNA..
Note that there are 3 representatives of this line, one of whom has done YDNA and matches.
Comment by smithsworldwide 2023-08-10 09:10:54